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Can Pinto beans or Navy beans be fermented?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:22 pm
by tommygun
I'm trying to figure out a way of fermenting some pinto beans, black beans, etc. I have seen some recipes that require the soaking of the beans in water, cooking then adding the Lactobacillus to the cooked beans.

I'm wondering if it is possible to soak the beans in water then introduce the bacteria without doing any boiling of the beans.

My guess is the beans may sprout but if salty brine water is added this may slow it up and keep bad bacteria out.

I've made sauerkraut before and am wondering if the beans can be added in the same way I add carrots, onions, yams, etc to the cabbage in the sauerkraut.

Does anyone have experience with this?

Re: Can Pinto beans or Navy beans be fermented?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:29 am
by Tim Hall
Some beans, particularly phaseolus vulgaris, which includes black beans, have lectins that may not get broken down with fermentation. The lectins can cause digestive upset, and if eaten in quantity, real toxicity. So it's best to cook black beans first. Navy beans I'm not sure about.

Re: Can Pinto beans or Navy beans be fermented?

PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:37 am
by Tim Hall
If you look at legit sprouting info, there are some beans that are not recommended to be eaten raw even after sprouting. Phaseolus is one of these. This includes any of the new world red beans, black beans and pinto beans.

Re: Can Pinto beans or Navy beans be fermented?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:33 am
by daddum
Thanks for that valuable information! Do you have any advice on fermenting these beans after cooking?
Adam

Re: Can Pinto beans or Navy beans be fermented?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:02 pm
by adaweawe
http://www.pitonatto.blogspot.com/2006/ ... natto.html

On this blog this guy made natto out of lentils and said it tasted good. When I tried it it taste bitter maybe I did something wrong. Also I've seen black beans successfully made with natto bacteria. Not black soybeans, but black beans. You mentioned raw but I'm talking about cooked.

Re: Can Pinto beans or Navy beans be fermented?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:26 pm
by 10kFerment
Miso and Tempeh are great ways to ferment beans.

Pinto, black beans, northern beans, kidney beans and I'm sure navy beans can be fermented with these methods. The larger the bean, the easier it is to get a good result if they're pre-cracked into smaller pieces.

Northern beans are neutral for all blood types, in case anyone is interested. Absolutely awesome miso and tempeh can be made from it. More difficult to get the skins off though. :)