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Where to source bio diverse live kefir grains?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:16 pm
by bradleyheathhays
About to jump into making kefir at home and for my starter I'd like to find a strain with as much biodiversity as possible.

Found a guy named Dom (I believe in Australia) who has a huge write up on all things related to kefir, and gives information that the live kefir he offers is a combination of something like 15 cultures he's come across in the past.

Other than Dom, does anyone have a suggestion on where to find known biologically diverse kefir starter?

Thanks

Re: Where to source bio diverse live kefir grains?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:30 pm
by dri
There are lots of scientific papers on the biodiversity of grains and how much variety there is. (e.g., http://journals.plos.org/plosone/articl ... ne.0069371)


I looked around a lot but could find no one selling grains that had a stated level of biodiversity. There are plenty of pills that at least claim to have a particular diversity do; I used Hybiotics PRO-15 before I switched to kefir. I had already tested them to see they have at least viable probiotics (putting the ground pill in milk for a day and it formed curds/whey).

Since I could not find grains with even claimed diversity, I just found some local grains and then added a Pro-15 pill (crushed) to a few batches to innoculate the grains with a diverse set of the strains. I've also added various other things, like yogurt with particular cultures. I figure I'can give the grains a boost every few months to help ensure the diversity, but they are growing so fast I have not. You can see my grains on one of my videos https://youtu.be/WymzVVPokh4
My grains that big grow from a split-off .5in grain in about two weeks.

Happy to ship you some for the cost of shipping, but you can probably find like ones locally and culture them with some good pill, which is probably better as shipping requires drying which will change the biological diversity.

Re: Where to source bio diverse live kefir grains?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:21 am
by Durgan